Interview with Jamie Chase: The American Debt Relief Challenge
Posted by Brent Dixon on March 23rd, 2009

While hanging around the GAC this year, I caught up with my friend Jamie Chase, Owner & Instigator of Goodness (yes, that’s her title) at CU Strategic Planning. During our talk, she brought me up to speed on her latest passion project, the American Debt Relief Challenge, built around this idea:
It’s not fancy. Just a simple truth. Not-for-profit credit unions have lower credit card rates than big, for-profit banks. When you transfer your debt to a credit union, more of your monthly payment is applied to reducing the debt and less to cover a high interest rate. It’s the easy and honest way to save a lot of money.
Here are some highlights from our conversation -
me: So what’s the backstory on this project?
JC: Over that coffee my friend Scott Butterfield described a balance transfer program which saved the average family $200 a month. Holy wow! That’s a car payment or station wagon full of groceries for most families. Credit unions across the U.S. are running balance transfer programs. What if we measured the national savings?
So we reached out to as many smart people as we knew at the time to help create the American Debt Relief Challenge.
me: How does it work?
JC: Credit unions have lower rates than for-profit banks. (The average mega-bank default rate is 26.8%. No credit union I know of has a default rate of 26.8%! ) The average consumer makes one late payment a year and average people with decent credit are punished by these default rates.
When the average consumer transfers their cc debt to your credit union, more of their payment is applied to reducing the debt and less to cover a high interest rate. The average total savings over the life of the card is $13,000. National media covers the millions saved, local papers cover local CU stories. The truth in the news shows consumers they can get help from credit unions.
Along the way, credit unions attract new members, help more consumers and grow net revenue.
Credit unions can join the ADR Challenge without changing anything. We’ve kept the reporting easy. Participating CUs just have their card processor send us their weekly or monthly balance transfer report.
me: I’ve noticed that most of the do-gooding by credit unions is woefully undercommunicated. How are you and they going to get the word out about this?
JC: The millions saved is an easy media pitch, and we’ve got credibility firepower. Filene Fellow, Robert Manning PhD. author of Credit Card Nation is taking the ADR Challenge to the national media during his regular interviews. Just yesterday he was on NPR talking about the ADR Challenge.
Speaking of, if you’re doing balance transfers already, but want to do it even better, you’ve got to check out Manning’s Responsible Debt Relief Algorithm. We encourage credit unions to use it as new means of underwriting.
We also have widgets for credit unions and leagues. We roped former NASA employee, now CU tech guru, Jason Green into making an interactive savings map and ticker widget that shows the millions credit unions are saving consumers nationally, by state and by credit union. Your widget shows the amount your CU is saving members.
me: You seem really jazzed up right now.
JC: I’m really passionate about this. It’s credit unions helping people to help themselves in a desperate time. It is our chance to do something to make a difference right now, to make life better for our neighbors and members. ADR is the credit union philosophy in action: service, social responsibility, financial education, cooperation. It clearly depicts credit union pure goodness. It strategically grows loyal credit union members and increases credit union revenue during this corporate stabilization debacle. It will save at least one credit union from PCA by increasing net revenue.
Do you think any member we save from the predatory default rates of the mega banks will forget what we’ve done for them? No, they will stay with us and better understand why we are different.
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Amen. Thanks, Jamie!

Jamie Chase, CUDE, is an owner and instigator of goodness of Credit Union Strategic Planning. She is a former PBS producer and was previously the communications director for the Washington Credit Union League, where she introduced the Biz Kid$ PBS program to the credit union movement. Jamie has done PR for the World Council of Credit Unions and is known for her advocacy of active credit union elections as a membership growth solution.



